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Zhenwu
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Post subject: Re: Exploring Shinto Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:04 am |
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Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:02 pm Posts: 36
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Quote: "Wherever the energy of the universe attains a particular intensity, revealing itself as beauty, power, and wonder, there, the ultimate becomes apparent: there is 'kami'." - Fosco Mariani (Japan: Patterns of Continuity)That's a powerful quote, I like it. Technically though, I like Motoori Nobunaga's 本居 宣長 definition in his Kojikiden 『古事記伝』 Quote: In general, kami refers first to the manifold kami of heaven and earth we see in the ancient classics, and to the spirits (mitama) in shrines consecrated to the same. And it further refers to all other aweinspiring things—people of course, but also birds, beasts, grass and trees, even the ocean and mountains—which possess superlative power not normally found in this world. "Superlative" here means not only superlative in nobility, goodness, or virility, since things which are evil and weird as well, if they inspire unusual awe, are also called kami. I really like the Fosco Mariani quote though, because it helps provide a feeling of the religious experience, or in this case the Shinto experience. Quote: Personally, I don't think people can understand Shinto unless they experience it for themselves...I agree, but even with that there is a potential problem with people coloring their perceptions with notions of religion and/or spirituality that they already hold that may have little or nothing to do with the religious experience in other cultural settings. Of course, that is a common issue in a variety of contexts, and individuals that are aware of this potential pitfall has to deal with it as best they can...
Thanks for the pictures Yamazaki, very cool. For some reason, like Hakuzo, I couldn't view that image from the blog. It says 「画像が見つかりません。」. The main blog site has an image that shows up like that too...
Hakuzo NightFox, I believe you are referring to what is sometimes called the nyoi houju 如意宝珠. If you ran a google image search using the kanji you'd find some pictures, but most of them will probably be from Buddhist art and iconography. Anyway, you can find some artistic depictions of it at the following site: If you just need to show some people some pics so they know what you're talking about, then I hope that helps.
_________________ "Taking the Origin as such, one penetrates the origin of origins; Taking the Original State as such, one sees the heart-mind." - Yuiitsu Shintō Myōbō Yōshū 「元元入元初 本本任本心」 唯一神道名法要集
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Yamazaki
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Post subject: Re: Exploring Shinto Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:23 am |
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Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:22 pm Posts: 101 Location: Kuzunoha Inari-Jinja, Izumi
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I like Nobunaga's quote - it's a nice way to sum up the complex nature of "kami". Thanks, Zhenwu.
And I agree with you about people colouring their perseptions with their own culture of spirituality. Hopefully, with the world coming together a lot more, maybe we will start to see a change to an open-minded "blank slate" like approach when it comes to things like this - might not be entirely possible, but it's a start. And I'm glad you liked the photos ^^
I'll upload it then - I still have no problems viewing the blog, which is odd.
_________________ 「暗く深い絶望ほど、希望の光はよく見える。」
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RainStarDragon
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Post subject: Re: Exploring Shinto Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:50 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:09 pm Posts: 72 Location: Arashi/Shastayama Jinja
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Shinto is about the relationship between mankind and kami, and the ancestors. It is also about the horizontal relationship between man and his fellow man. These relationships are reciprocal, and ideally like family, kami taking care of the needs of their adherent, and this adherent doing things pleasing to kami, being thankful, and sharing with kami, thus taking care of kamisama in return. This is the inner core of Shinto. I highly recommend anyone that is interested in Shinto to visit Tsubaki Grand Shrine of America website http://www.tsubakishrine.org/home.html and join the mailing list, Rev. Barrish regularly interacts with people and answers questions. He is a very helpful man, he recently took time out of his busy schedule to talk to my 10 year old daughter to help figure out which omamori would meet her needs and concerns that had recently arisen (I am in no state to make effective omamori right now). Tsubakiko also has a Facebook group that is quite lively, many people in that group from long time Shinto practioners all the way to people only just beginning to explore.
_________________ Magic is that breath never quite caught, Flowing always just behind the scenes, And only glimpsed when sought.
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